does the happy dance with Jinx and Cyn :) 'chelle - I'll see what I still have saved from when I did this. If not now, when I finally do convert these for real I'll post a couple like that. Will be interesting to see how each change effects the mood of the image. Misha - You are going to love this. Wasn't converted to b&w in Photoshop. It's something new I've only recently learned how to do. I use CaptureOne DSLR to convert my images from RAW into TIFFs. There is a photographer who has created a camera profile for C1DSLR that "sees" color in B&W. In other words, the profile maps color very well to a b&w colorspace. So, when I use these settings in CaptureOne, everything in the conversion (from initial thumbnails to ouput) is in RGB grayscale (not grayscale mode). I think that's important as I don't have to keep making the switch in my mind from Color to B&W. From the moment I open up the app to the conversion, I am always thinking of and seeing the images in B&W. All controls/tools work, so I can tweak the look by adjusting color temperature and tint, exposure, saturation, contrast, brightness, gamma, levels, curves, etc. Doing this at the Raw conversion stage gives you the ultimate level of control and retention of detail and image data. Of course, I am still learning how to use this to the fullest, but possibilities for this are incredible. So, I know the banding didn't occur there. Had to be when I was screwing with my toning curves. I probably switched from 16-bit to 8-bit mode and then did something stupid there. Just can't remember what it was that I did. Ah well, will keep a closer eye on my editing in the future. -=>Donald