You may want to throw your eyes back up yonder and re-read what Migal just wrote... he has a solid point. (OTOH, you can get Poser functionality right now with Carrara's Poser plug-in for CS 3. Peek fer yerself: http://www.eovia.com/offers/3dcommune_tp.jsp ) I suspect that there will be two big forces at play here... once Poser regains its feet and gets integrated into the Shade Collective (err, Star Trek imagery, anyone?), it will become the force to be reckoned with, so long as it doesn't wind up coming out with a four-digit pricetag. Part of why DAZ|Studio came about in the first place is a reaction by DAZ to avoid becoming marginalized by Curious Labs, or to end up getting buried in the same grave as Curious Labs when it looked like CL was about to die any day... I honestly don't blame DAZ for getting as much talent as it can into the stable; it's growing by leaps and bounds, and has the room and initative to get as much of the community on board as possible. Now, all cheerleading aside, yeah, there is a legitimate worry that one or the other will become a dominant force, or that both will start tearing the Poser community in two. OTOH, there is something that gets forgotten in all of this: anybody can go get a cheap modeller (there are several very ncei free ones out there too) and build their own hair, clothes, etc... No one is stopping folks in here from improving themselves, and building (then selling) their own perfect projects, eh? /P