Thanks for all the help guys. Does anyone know where to find some really good high res "(FREE)" HDRI images. I've found just a few, and they aren't high res. I've scoured with google, but I'm having a hard time finding them, I've found some of the Spherical but not the Long Lat type I need. I reaaly want to figure out a way to make Carrara 2 renders look as real as possible, and get the best wuality out of it. If I had the extra cash I'd get v3, but until then, I want to push v2.1. thanks kaom