thanx to all who helped... I figured it out finally This will help immensely. I'm trying to find out how many Poser4 figures it takes to make my Bryce4 explode on my PII with 128 mg... (Not really, but I've got 5 Poser figures in a render so far and Bryce is beginning to object) Now, If I could just find out what I'm doing wrong with one of my transmaps (see other question on the forum) I'd be all set... Pat