Dialyn - I said I was going to leave it alone. I have programmed databases, hence my questions about the table/recordset and the why and how - I was involved in one of the biggest databases in Norway, the directory inquiries one running on Unix with Oracle with gazillions of recordsets. I dont claim to be a guru or more than competent, but I do ask questions from a corner with -some- experience. So - please leave me to enjoy my choice of --leaving-- it alone after I have stated my opinion, I think that would work for all of us, yes ?. ~S