Well, I just want to see them used... if you guys like them, I'm thrilled. If it makes for better art, fantastic! Hmann did a kit, Griffnn did a kit, and now Deecey has done a kit. That is a ***lot*** of potential for face-shaping. The only non-Deecey morph I used in any of my faces was ear-rotation. Elf ears look better at an angle, IMHO. This means that if a person were to combine kits, they would get ***all*** sorts of faces.... most of them prettier or stranger or more interesting than the basic Judy. One can also go uglier... thinking of Haggrith! ;^) Deecey, I am just using default texture with a pistachio base tint and hot pink under the iris. Depending upon how close her face is in the final rendering, I might have to make an original texture for her. I do have several Vicki textures, but most of them have makeup. I don't have a swashbuckler texture. After running this side test last night, I added a lemon chiffon basetint to the dress to better fit the wings. However, I might end up retexturing the dress, too. It depends upon final composition. I need to go check my collection of wands and staves next! Oh, the wings are Traveler's luna moth... they are from his Props Club, but might also be at RDNA now. His moth antennae have a quirk, and until I can get them straightened, will use the crown. So, Judy does NOT have to look like Judy. And there exists a bunch of stuff which can be made to fit her. And if more people use her, even more stuff will be created. Carolly