god, i had some messages for two people who posted things theere put them here: spinner: Well they are not "marginal" artists, and they are sold openly on stores, but at least specialised stores (means french comics art), not much in generic/overall librairies... In fact even if their word could be a good opportunity to be proud of european brand of art, if you ask most people in the street they would even hardly know by the name. anyway recently they made a "good" movie (sounded good, imho) out of from enki bilial's work (not an adaptation of one book, but inspired/gathered from the whole style of him) called immortal. Maybe with such a miracle event (woooow we french are making MOVIES again, it had been long time since we did..) more people will ge to know bilial and other like him. about local problems regarding japanese animation/litterature in my country, maybe in your's it echoed the same, if you wanna talk about it, lets start with IM and maybe if the size limit is too small for such exchange, we'll switch to email... I see no problem in sharing the informations/memories i had of that time. In fact anime addicts like me in my youth were "nearly" as much pointed as freaks. bijouchat: about the GIRL: i am NOT tired of japanese anime girls especially recentlty with corean art (manwah) or chinese mangas reaching our market (refreshing different styles), and due to the fact this genre is still bullied a lot here and misunderstood, but we finally made some progress, 10 years later than spanish, italians or other europeans... yet i like too (though rarely see it, sadly) the typical european toon pinups such as dany's work. btw do you ever know the work of a french artist "bruno bellamy" (mix of japanese anime and Dany/goosen style). He made various "sexy" pinup (often topless at the early time) a few years ago in some magazine. I think he has a website with samples. His character's face may remind you of those arts you displayed here (like the mag cover above)