oh cool Riddokun - thanks for the tip! I'll go check him out! oh, I have nothing against japanese anime girls - they just aren't all that pleasing to me, and there's too many of them around now. I never bought any of them and won't. The GIRL ... well I think she has some potential for other things. :) I can't wait to use her with the non-realistic renderer in Carrara Studio. Should really be cool.