I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU MEAN. I'VE HAD POSER 4 FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. I PLAY WITH IT, AND PLAY WITH IT AND STILL HAVE A HARD TIME TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY IT WON'T WORK THE WAY I WANTED. WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE PHENOMINAL WORK THAT CAN BE DONE BY CHECKING OUT THE GALLERIES IT MAKES YOU WONDER "WHY CAN'T I"??? DON'T GIVE UP. BIT BY BIT IT COMES TOGETHER, CHECK OUT SOME OF THE TUTORIALS AVAILABLE HERE AT RENDEROSITY, AND AT THE LINKS MENTIONED ABOVE. UNFORTUNALY, I HAVEN'T STUCK TO IT ENOUGH TO GET PROFICIENT AT POSER, I ALWAYS FALL BACK TO BRYCE 5, AND WORK ON BACKGROUNDS FOR WHEN IF I CAN EVER FIGURE IT OUT, ALL FIGURES NEED SOMEWHERE TO LIVE, AND ALL SCENES NEED SOMEONE TO ENJOY THEM. ENJOY THE INSANITY, FOR WHAT WE DO OR EVEN ATTEMPT TO DO IS BRING OUR DREAMS AND FANTASIES TO LIFE. LET THEM LIVE. HAPPY RENDERING !!!!