Wow, Digital Divas, that is an old reference, careful not to date yourself there :) I "Dmentia" was involved when they origionally formed, but drifted away as they became more focused on the digital aspect than the art aspect...I'd like to beleive there were no hard feelings about that, they were a great group of gals as I recall...It was one of the founding Diva's that set me straight regarding copyrights and permission and what not, wonder if she's still around...Perhaps I left before the issues you're referring to, the only issues I remember vividlly were more language barrier based and a couple for lack of support when a member got attacked by some one stealing her idenity(sp?)...Was a long time ago...I remember more good than bad from those ladies... As for the topic, DAZ and myself are working toward a solution to keep the products in PC. We decided not to go into much detail to keep another "Weekend Blowout" from happening...We posted as Caly pointed out because we didnt want any one wondering if we were intentionally keeping them in the dark...