Jim, Even a black horse on a black ground doesn't hide the problems. Whithers? Pasterns? Knees? All those muscles where the fore-leg meets the body? Pah! I'm not interested in whether the horse can twirl his ears like a burlesque dancer and her tassels or even whether he can appear on a talk show! I want a horse with good sound conformation and breed suitability. Since I own the Charger and the P4 horse, I'd need a very good reason to buy this one at any price. At the premium prices, this beastie has to be a major step up from the others available. It isn't. The Daz Eagle and Dragon were expensive when I bought them, but they looked and moved right out-of-the-box, and all the morphs and textures just made a good thing better. In this instance, all the third party folks will be working to fix a fundamentally weak object. It shouldn't need fixing. For a freebie, we know that we'll often need to do repair work or conversions or rescaling. For a premium-priced mesh we expect, not perfection, but something which doesn't go lumpy when the head is lowered or cracked when it is raised within the natural limits of the animal. Furthermore, before marketing those morphs, somebody ought to have looked at the breeds in question, and, gasp, maybe read something about the breed type. What makes an Arabian an Arabian? Or a Shetland a Shetland? The morphs won't do for ANY kind of horse... not even the emaciated one. Carolly the Unimpressed