Actually that was the first thing I did with him, and he even has a pose for it, from Daz. He does graze better than the P4 horse, at least getting much closer to the ground. I suppose if he ate high grass, he'd do pretty well and not starve like the P4 horse who is always begging for hand fed hay and sugar cubes. :) And you are right in that his facial expressions are so much better, which would make him great for portraits or things of that nature. I think it's kinda like the freak versus Mike. Weren't they both the same mesh, only seriously changed? I think having a regular horse and a draft horse from the same mesh would have made more sense than a morph which seems to activate several individual morphs that don't seem to come together quite right. So he does have potential I see in playing with him a bit more. I wonder though if they will do an SR1 to fix the problems Daz mentioned. ShadowWind