I read someplace a technique for using the poser5 cloth room to cling-fit clothing. it involves using the timeline and scaling the figure during the fitting process. Durened if I know where though. beware using conforming clothing objects, many of them break the NoNo rules for the P5 cloth room (self intersections, doublesided) Allegedly the new SR fixes some of that but .... I haven't tested it yet (being a lil too busy texturing right now you see) Hauk Okay ..now you're just being silly :) Yes, putting clothing made for a humanoid onto a dragon would be difficult.