Additionally one COULD argue that, in this day and age, updating the way the program displays the document window to support some 3D acceleration (as provided by most graphics cards over 8.00) might be considered "improving what's already there". IIRC either Mark or Katherine suggested (in response to a query from one of us lot) that they'd be "considering it", but I wouldn't want to put any money on this making it into Poser 6 unless they've already done tests which suggest they can leverage better speed improvements at the lower end than DAZ3D seem to have managed :( I still marvel, mind you, at how many people actually expct newer software to not only have greater functionality but be faster AS WELL (on the same hardware, usually). Cheers, Cliff