@ddruckenmiller - I'm sure that the material on the subject isn't actually leather, I just called it that because it looks similar, I'm not really familiar with the names of different sorts of fabrics and materials. @foleypro - Glad you like it. @AgentSmith - Thanks, glad you like it, I was having trouble getting the diffuse color just right, the way it is now only the specular parts are very visible so that is likely what makes that aspect look good but unfortunately this method dosen't convey the detail in the rest of the mesh. @bikermouse - I would have to agree with you that the material is a little over specular, even my reference subject isn't that specular; I will likely tone it down a bit in the next WIP when the metal zipper is included which will need to be much more specular than the leather part. @miden1138 - After I get the diffuse color for the leather part down right the rest of the detail should be visible, I just wanted to get this posted right away to get your comments for improvement so I took the first render I posted the first render I finished. I agree the leather could be scuffed up a bit, my reference subject is in mint condition though as it is brand new so I will have to search around for reference images of worn leather because at the moment I am not sure how to achieve this effect. @miden1138 & Dennisld - The stitching on the cloth part dosen't line up correctly purposely, I figured in the final render I would extend this aspect by drawing some loose threads around this area in post work. I'm not entirely happy with the way the threadwork looks now, but I am not sure how to fix it yet, I do agree the way it is now dosen't quite work right. Thanks a lot for your input everyone on this and on my previous WIPs I find it EXTREMELY helpful and your support helps keep me motivated. Hopefully I will beable to finish this object off by tommorow night...