.. oh, and NO we don't expect people to buy VistaPro just to enter the contest.. that would be as dumb as the suggestion itself. This is for users that already have the full version, who will spend very little time rendering because they have been using it for years and years and know how to use the program, and then get their name out to thousands of people. And who knows, maybe one of those thousands of people is looking for a 3D artist to create some really cool 3D landscapes for an important contract they are working on. It's not like we are going to be selling prints of the winner's renderings and making millions of dollars. We are just sending out a fricken postcard! Sheesh! -Nio (using Ronin's login)