The other thing you might note is that as you go through the body parts, many are not set at 0 for default. This makes a difference also. Jim Burton noted that when you do totally skin tight clothing, it is almost impossible to have them 'fit' at all poses (I'm paraphrasing, but this is the reason he asked for some input when he was creating his sweater/skirt and ended up making them NOT skin tight)--esp. in Vicky because there are so many more morphs possible on each body part. When you get to the chest/collar areas, for instance--just look at all the things you can do with the breast area--boy, I wouldn't give up those for anything, but to have the catsuit fit for all of these w/o adjusting them--well, I'm not a modeler, but I'm assuming that would be extremely difficult. I'm not saying one thing or another for or against Zygote--I don't find the few adjustments to be particularly difficult for the flexibility of the character. As I understand it, P3 meant you had to actually fit the clothing to the model all the time--not conforming at all. LOL--for me, I'm glad I came into Poser on 4 version.