Graphics card image quality (and speed - two halves of the same coin) have been making great strides in recent years. IMHO it's actually one of the more "active" areas of computer evolution/development. I agree with stewer that it's inevitable that at least some rendering will be done by the graphics co-processors. Remember when the CPU was quick but offloading floating-point math to a seperate chip on a calculation-by-calculation basis was still a benefit? Of course the "amths co-processor" has ended up being on the same bit of silicon in the end, improving speed further, but the possibility exists for similar work here, at least for stuff destined for screens (and potentially for print, in the longer-run). This still won't be affecting the pet peeve of Poser 1-5 being slow in actual use :( Hmm... Pixie sounds interesting! Will have to look into that when I've got a spare month Cheers, Cliff