Hi Just to respond to the point made by nanotyrannus - I did say that in my original post that Vue images are less prone to postworking and that is a testament to the power off the package and the skill of the 3D artist. But I'd challenge you to find a Hot 20 picture in the Poser Gallery thet is NOT postworked. If I was new to 3D and was looking for an all-round package where would I look for examples? I'm not saying anything about the fantastic images themeselves and agree taht postworking is necessary in some cases. I'm only saying that maybe there should be a section for pure 3D artists to express themselves that would double as showcases for the individual packages. I personally get very demotivated with Poser when I can't achieve soem of the images posted in the Poser Gallery only to discover that they were heavily Postworked. A GOOD 3D Package should put the ability to produce fantastic images in EVERYONES hands and credit should be given to those that have the skill to push these packages to their limits.