Miriah, What's the difference between doing an underwater scene with watercolors or oils? Each requires a different set of skills and techniques. They may be similar, both use brushes, but they are still very different. Part of the challenge, not all of it, but part of it, is to master the medium. That way the art can come from within at it's best. Like I said above, I don't care what everyone else uses to create images. I just think that there is some value to creating an image within a specific medium. Like creating an oil painting of a mountain meadow. I couild easily snap a photo and then take it to PSP and apply all kinds of artsy filters to it and make into art. Or I could paint it with oils. One method is not more or less valid than the other, but a good oil painting deserves respect simply because it's an oil painting. If someone can come up with art using UF without whipping out the airbrush in PSP, they deserve repsect because they are showing that they have mastered the medium. Keith