What's your point BB? I believe Lyrra mentioned something further up this thread about a PoserWorld rate increase. Doesn't PoserWorld have a right to increase their rates? Why complain if they are providing a discount coupon, if you want a subscription get it while there is a deal on it. One the post that I originated this entire thread with was provided as a service to those who use Poser, and then folks come along and just find all sorts of things to complain and pick apart. Kind of makes me reluctant to even post anything here since a number of people have found fault in the new i posted for others benefit. Of course little snide remarks and innuendos won't prevent me from posting for the benefit of others here, but i do fail to see what the big deal is about a rate increase and then a celebration coupon for money off? Heck they are still cheaper and offer more that any other site out there that is worth anything. The rates on PoserWorld went up prior to the anniversary celebration, if you frequented the site this last week you would have seen that yourself. I noticed the increase Tuesday or Wednesday of this last week, or was it the week before that? Hmm, cant remember for sure. In any case I still fail to see a point that you seem to think you are making.