Oh my god, this is the old argument that I run into all of the time. Ghost, no one is trying to insult you or your kind, however, how you get there is as in important as what you get when you get there. Art is life. I want a million dollars!, But if I stole it to get there, then I am nothing more than a theif. If I toiled and worked to get on my own ideas from the ground up! Then I truely earned what I got. 3D art is just the next step in Sculpturing with stone. Our raw material are primatives, lines and vertices just as a sculpturist's tools are rock and stone. You said you were not a modeller. That is fine. I love poser artist because you take the meshes that we create to newer levels that we never thought about using them for. It is a symbiotic relationship. You are not any less a 3D artist. You are a Poser/Animator who works with the meshes that the modeller creates. Our argument one of getting the jist of what 3D art is. Modelling is very rewarding and I one would like you to experience creating a great mesh from the ground up, then animating or posing it. It is a very exilerating experience and it gives you a deeper understanding to what modellers and animators are and where their mindset is. Also, if you create your own mesh, then you don't have to worry about royaly rights or credit to someone else which is not a bad thing, but just something that some of us would like to do without. Editing a model that already exist is your thing so fine, you continue to that. 1000faces and myself will continue to dazzle with our complete scenes built from the ground up.