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Im with AzChip - Im becoming pretty good with the spline modeler but the vertex modeler has me going in circles. Sign me up for the brain exchange... To Serge: Spline-wise, I'm learning that profiles of the model (profiles being as seen from the Left view and Top view) are tremendously important (of course) and powerful for getting the shape you require out of the spline model - as well as cross sections. AsChip is right, the tut in the manual is pretty good, it just requires getting your mind to click with it - stay at it, it will. The 3ds models on my site are all made with the spline modeler. - Dave