Well as an illustrator the process is not as important. hough I do see some analogy with the million dollars it is not a totally similar one.When I do a piece I claim the piece. Not the meshwork or the other things. It is much like using a reference for a painting. One day perhaps I will be able to do meshwork but the thing is that I don't have the money to buy thousand dollar programs. I don't have the patience to try to figure out something that is driven from an almost purely analytical process. I am an artist. Primarily in the realm of oil paintings and such. Heck, for the most part what I use Poser for is what it was originally intended. As a studio model. It makes it much easier than trying to get a reference for a pose that I have to jump up and down in the mirror for S So when it comes to joint parameters and the formula's for CR2 and such it is beyond me. I can scuplt pretty well in traditional media but I just don't have the tools to do it in 3D. Unless you want a Bryce made Boolean robot S Later