Rateller: Damn. Knew there was something wrong there, but couldn't quite put my finger on it. So now I have a picture of a homicidal jerk getting his hands webbed over while sitting on the couch. This day just can't get much worse... raven: Thanks for that. As a mild(ish) aracnophobe I thank you from the heart of my bottom :) LonCray: Nah - he realised that any move on his part to market such a cheap and super-useful product wpould get big business on his tail. So he's joined the eilite group of inventors who've come up with stuff "too good to let the public have". Everlasting lightbulbs, liquid paper that doesn't leave your document looking like an unprofessional mess, car tyres that don't wear out, political promises that are kept... Cheers, Cliff