Great start on that dress :) I can't wait to see more of this stuff available to play with! OK question out there for the modelers... what in your opinions is the easiest 3d package to learn? I have been trying to learn 3dsMax, but so far it has been a bear to learn... any suggestions?. also has any one looked at doing JCMs for MD/AD her self? I bought the maglev cycle the other night for a cyberpunk render I've been building in my mind, I got MD in to her catsuit, got the boots converted, posed her to the cycle and her poor little tush just looks horrible in the pose :( Grim