Oops, looks like a got a bit tipsey. Too much copying and pasting I guess . Out of interest Khrys, how goes the specularity maps? I'd offer to help out directly but, erm... I don't actually think I own the clothing you're using, so it's be slightly harder to work on than I'd prefer. But I'd be tempted to take the "texture" (pigmentation map) and replace "Gold" with white and everythign else with black, and apply that - I think you'll be surprised at how well it can work. Cheers (just the once this time!) Cliff