I got Poser 5 coz I did not already own Poser 4. I have used Judy and Don (and the kids too) and do like the face room. I agree that it is a shame that they are not supported by the community - Daz refusing to do stuff has certainly not helped. The dynamic clothing option is great - sure it is time consuming but it does allow some unique looks. And don't forget the improved material handling - I am still amazed at the incredible results you can get just by messing about with this feature.