I hope people don't start thinking it's totally brainless to post Poser files since people without Poser won't have usable access to them. Max files that are posted on the net often contain things that don't translate well to .3ds.Certain animated transformations often get screwed up, complex UV mapping can get screwed up or even lost, special effects have nothing to convert to and the file size is always much smaller.I've downloaded one 2mb MAX file that balloons to almost 20mb as .3ds, it would br even larger as an .obj Besides MAX user's are people too and sometimes we like to download each other's stuff to see what everyone's up too and maybe even learn something new.Kinda like what goes on here. Praxis22 If the models aren't too huge I can convert them to .obj for you.Please respond here, I'm having trouble getting my email (sending seems to be fine).Let me know what they are, I may have downloaded them already. Sorry for the attitude smallspace but the MAX community does have brains.