I am sorry for being gloomy this morning. I am thinking that if I release one real hot seller, it could support my work on animedoll. How many of you have heard of my "G3 genital for V3". It is a product that I have tried to distance my self from. I made this product to enter the market place because I knew that it would be a strong top seller. I have been considering making a new "G4" or "Ultimate G" to regain my standings in the top selling merchants. marty

You could make the animedoll a bit more realistic, like pubic hair and things......darn i can't think of anything.... Are there any programs to make 3D objects EASIER than Rhino? I just can't use it!

SenshiTaurus :practice makes perfect :0) insomnia: i think the new g would be a great idea after all sex sells in any market,sad but true. the3dzone

senshi taurus, i did try to make some :) may you saw one of my picture here (though you cnanot see the countless draft renders in my hd though :) i mean, pubic hair :) NOW for realistic, please dont bring the topic, i am still upset about maya since he made us believe he had FINALLY a genital fix (he acknowleged it was flawy since start of maya/animedoll) nearly ready, and then nver heard news from it in last 2 months at least !!!! tried to do a dirty magnet myself... a bit bugged but it goes well in cartoon mode :) made once in the forum athread about flaws and needed improvement for anime/mayadoll family since their birth and that NOONE ever bothered to support both of them enough to do so far. most of this thread's content is still viable/true nowadays :( insomnia: well whenever it is about genitals and v3 it is assured to sals well, so if poser is your living and wages, don't hesitate for us, get as much money as you can to support yourself :) ps: hope you ddi not get offended with my IM because it was not my intent; i am just "like that" :)

Maybe I should make pubic hair for AnimeDoll, uh? I could model it like animedoll's hair on her head. I could make heartshapes, etc. Wouldn't take long to make and its sure to boost sales. Good sugestion Senshi and Riddokun! This product could be produced in less than a week and may save the farm!

Are there any good tenticle monsters out there? Give me sugestions on what you would like a animedoll pubic hair to be like.

Marty, Before you get to far on that, some one released a pubic hair prop for Mayadoll in the freebies section. Just want to make sure you know, that might reduce the saleability of an RMP product. Also, I had this big post I made earlier that got dumped by the system. I'm in agreement with those that think this forum needs to be moved else where, its not the first time that happened to me. Any how to restate part of what I tried to post before I had to leave for work: Marty, I think we all understand the finacial aspect of what your your doing, this isn't a hobby for all of us. As far as business goes, you need to do what ever it take to keep your self in business. While it sucks to lose the support for MD/AD it is more then understandable. :) I then went on (only half jokingly) to offer to take your meshes and do the MD/AD conversions on them, I've gotten to be pretty good with a set of magnets and have done quite a few MD conversion. I'll post some pics if anyone is interested in seeing my converted stuff. I have a few that have come out quite well. As far as my pic goes, feel free to use it for what ever you want! Grim

I guess the reason AD is slowing down in sales must be the imminent release of G.I.R.L. over at DAZ..... :] Fish

and don't forget the release of the new koshini,kiki and krystal is still quite new.people go crazy when that much cuteness is released at one time...lol the3dzone

That and no offence to Mr Maya, he doesn't seem to be promoting his own product much. It was totaly cool that he made MD free but its not like most people know its there, word of mouth is not the worlds best marketing strategy. I have a suggestion or two for you and your crew Marty. You might want to try throwing out a texture pack, or even a mesh package to some of the other vendors like 3dna, poser pro or 3d commune, while these venues are not as high traffic there are some advantages. Since they aren't as prolific, your products won't get buried as fast, so they stay visible longer, if you pop out a texture package that points back to the main product here on RMP... viola, more visibility. Along with this, it would probrably be helpfull to have a web site that you can link to. That way you can show off your products the way you want to and point back to your product here. The Japanese poser sites are also a great place to show off some of your stuff, thats where I originaly stumbled across studio Maya, I was catching up on the gallery he has there and found his link to StudioMaya, I checked it out and bookmarked it for the hair. If you can get a listing on his site, or possibly get involved with some of the "fairs" as they are refered to, that might be a way to get some additional visibility. Thats the one main problem I see with RMP, theres so much stuff coming in at times that some thing you saw a week ago gets totaly buried. I tried some searches the other day in the marketplace and the freebies section and the results only pulled up roughly half of the item I was looking for and a bunch of products that didn't even relate to my search. Just some suggestions, hope I didn't offend :) Grim

hmm another suggestion to is to make a website for you and your team to promote and display your own stuff... anyway grimjerk we were talking about AD pubic hair, not MD (most v2 pubic hairs can work n her wih very little trick) i made at least one "public" picture with my pubic hairs so far, in my gallery (Sunbath). and yes, pubic hairs had to be "solid" like animedoll hair, of course, and would someone make it, it should get some morphs for common pubic hair shapes such as bushy, trimed, natural and so on. anyway while a genital morph is a really hard job and such, a solid hairpube prop wouldbe hard to sale on itself unless part of a bigger package, it is more suitable as a freebie i guess... yes the upcoming of G.I.R.L. may have an incidence, as many turned on animedoll because lacking of traditionnal european sexy comic girl such as G.I.R.L. (damn acronym, gimme her name ! :) once they leave, there is FAR LESS pure anime addicts out there (but there are), and yes Maya is not promoting well his own products if you ask me, while they all are good (both the free and rmp ones). I guess that for a FREE character as Mayadoll, it has to be assimilated by her communauty of fans (if any) and it is us who have to support her as we can. I cannot model myself (lack time and software to learn) and barely learned to drawn some textures so far, but i would humbly say that i made my best so far to promote both dolls. in fact i only use her (and posette caracters). Do not have vickies or mikes on my hard drive. The only reason for which i would buy them (would i do it) is because of abundant good freebies (hairs, clothes) for the daz products, and for Yamato's mods of them only. but on my actual instal of poser 4, all you can see is anime ormayadoll everywhere :) think of it as a challenge. By forcing oneself to use a young, unperfect character, you quickly see its shortcomings and identify what improvement it needs...

Grimjerk i cannot find the freebie you mentionned. can you point me to it please ? anyway here is a sample of my tries :) (lame and quick but it works)

As for pubic hair, it would be a very inexpensive item anyway and wouldn't save the store. It was something to think about. Although, me not knowing of the free product's existance tells you something about me. I don't spend very much time exploring and playing, because I am so busy working on new stuff. To devote so much time to devolement means I don't really know whats is all out there and know the market very well at all. I am still very much in indecision about what to do. As for making this public, in forum, I have done it so some good may come of it. I have been discussing these issues for some time now with other merchants as well as my team here. It was probably not the right thing to do, talking in public forum that is, but I thought I would rather do this than keep those who work closeley with me in the dark. Also, Grimjerk, if this forum wasn't public, you wouldn't be here talking to us. I am interested in talking to you about converted stuff by the way Grimjerk. I have been trying, although unsuccessful, to do what I would consider a good MarketPlaceQuality conversion. I am hard to please and I don't like my own conversions. I interested in making my products work on other characters rather than just AD/MD, but I keep comming back to the same conclusion that it might be easier and better to remodel the clothing for the new character. Thats not bad hair Riddokun, or at least no worse than my first attempts this afternoon. marty

My approach was to make several sets of pubes like riddikon has posted with different shapes. I was going to attempt shapes such as a heart shape also. I might just add it to my genital morph package to and re-release it.

Attached Link: http://www.the3dzone.com

I have my own website I have a free section ,2 galleries and store a adverising page that both mine and insomniaworks products are in with price listed by each item,and links to each store item here. I belong to the rosity webring,rendervisions webring and advertise with banner exchanges on alot of sites. it usually gets between 2,000 and 4,000 hits a day according to my stats page. I would like for it to become a much bigger site with a forum and chat and such,but my hosting company tries to kill me with bandwidth prices. The3dZone

Marty, I think we had a miscommunication, I wasn't trying to say that the forum shouldn't be public, but that maybe a better forum system could be found else where, that doesn't seem to be a glitchy as this one. I have never had problems posting to a forum like I do to this one (meaning RMP, not specifically to these threads). I have to type these out in notepad or some such, or do a copy right before I post because half the time I try to post here it kicks me out to the main forum menu and I lose all of my typing :(. I try to be carefull with the way I phrase things, its soooo easy to have a misunderstanding, or offend some one when your trying to "talk" in a forum, I don't always succeed. I never ever meant to make it private, it to much fun talking to the other MD/AD enthusiasts! Oh and sorry, the prop I was talking about wasn't a freebie, I have so many props and what not I lose track (25 gig runtime directory, thats after I removed all the posette stuff). It was part of a MD package called Mimi. http://market.renderosity.com/softgood.ez?ViewSoftgood=26253 Also, did you see the texure package that serpentis put out for your new Bikini? It looks good, priced decent to. It might help drive sales for the Bikini. http://market.renderosity.com/softgood.ez?ViewSoftgood=28110

Here is one of the conversions I did, its a BATLab RMP piece for vicky3, Its one of my better conversions. I was extremly pleased with this one, I actualy got the hips and buttocks to conform right. I left the boots a little large on purpose, I was working on a freebie catsuit at the time and I wanted the boots to fit over the catsuit, I ran in to some problems and shelved the catsuit (you had announced yours at that time, and I said "woot, I'll just buy that when it comes out"). I'm still working on the bra portion of it, I got ditracted by the catsuit and have been having to much fun with it. Sorry for the picture size. I have also converted ISOPs maid dress for V3 and also his School Girl outfit for TentenJ. For the Sailor Suit, I converted the shoes/socks from BATLabs Cangal suit for TentenJ. Oddly enough I find that the TentenJ stuff is almost the easiest to convert. I Have also done or am working on some other things. I did an over the knee boot from another one of BATS outfits and attached a stocking top to it,and one of his Kawa outfits Grim

The other outfits

We REALLY need to find a better forum system than this piece of crap. I think we should go over to a free forum site. I lost everything I just typed. Forgot my #1 rule for posting stuff in here... select all/copy...

Ok, round 2! This time I'll copy it before I post it. Now... what did I say... I wish you the best of luck in whatever decision you make, but I feel that I should bring about a point that you may have not considered. Have you thought about dual-supporting items? What I mean by that is make an item that fits both the Dolls and the Vickys. With Grimjerk's obvious ability to make things fit, and the products you release, I think there's a definite marketing potential not being used here. I haven't seen anything out there that fits itself over more than one figure type. Or at least, over our ever-popular Doll/Vicky figures. What I mean is something like this... since it's staring at me in the face. Nice fits, Grimjerk. The Catherine dress. Build it, make it fit one figure, make it fit another figure, put the full body morph in that changes it, market it. Testing of something like that would be through the roof, but I think there's huge potential there that no one else seems to be doing (probably for good reason, but I haven't seen anyone mention anything like this before). Of course, the market being as it is, you'd fit it first to the Vicky crowd and have the morph fit it to the Dolls. Doing it the other way around, while more preferred for us would not be a good marketing strategy. Also, they should be dual-faced ads and thumbnails. Showing both fits or whatever. You'll want to play to that potential. Getting both sides to look at the product will gather more clicks. More clicks becomes more sales. I've been noticing a decline in the viewing of anime-type pictures in the galleries for the past few months. Before 2004, the pictures were getting hit in the high 500s or so. Now they're getting hit in the 100s. I have also received some IM's (I save them all, except the "so-and-so received your message" ones) saying that while the person doesn't watch/care much for anime, they like the picture.. or someone they were browsing with liked the picture. That tells me that there is not that much interest in the anime artform here on Renderosity. But there is some, obviously. I'd support you in whatever decision you make, marty. Whether you continue to work with us on the Doll or move to something else entirely or do both (much more prefer the latter). But, it's early... what I said probably doesn't make too much sense. Just something I was thinking of. Oh... and did I mention that we should take this forum off of Renderosity's PoC forum? ...selecting all... copying... hitting the button again.

Oh yeah... let me be the first to officially say it. Happy Birthday SenshiTaurus!

Yay! You remember! Anyway, i was thinking about what he said, and it's true. BatLab did a similar thing, except it was seperate clothes for both models, but full body morphs would work also. Also, if you didn't want to concentrate on anime/maya doll so much, you could use your modeling skills to create scenery props for poser, like forests (i'd need that for RPG World anime), towns, cities, inside buildings... Since i'm absolutly no good at modeling, the only way I could help is texturing.....and since i'm bourd, if ya want a texture, just post here and i'll see if i can do one to past the time.....now i just gotta update my site....

Yeah, I've seen the multiple model thing going alot. While a quick fix, I think we need to revolutionize the industry. Plus that's just double the resources for the same thing. I came up with this little plan while I was fitting some glasses I had downloaded to AnimeDoll's head (that was a lot of fun, even went through and cel-shaded them while I was at it). It came to full fruition after seeing Grimjerk's work. You could do dual models if that's what it comes to I guess, but I think we can get this thing off the ground and multi-purpose your stuff for the "masses".

Boy I'm just full of insight this morning. Another thing that may be the cause of the slump in sales across the board is because people are gearing up for the summer. Prom is around the corner, summer vacations and time off are being finalized, moving expenses for all those summer movers are making plans. Lots of savings usually go on around this time of year so that they can spend alot later on in the year. I'm no expert or anything even close on the subject of marketing and trends, but I'm just basing what I've observed in my past 10 years working in retail that spring is not a very big spending season. It happened every single year I've worked in retail, so I'm thinking there's probably a trend here. Between February and June, there's very little spending on entertainment purposes (my entire retail background is entertainment in video rental, video games and computers). The only thing entertainment-wise (and that's what this is) that I see real spending on is the movies, and that's really only around April/May/June. But... like I said... I'm not an expert or anything close, just an observer.

Very cool work Grimjerk. I have made magnet sets to convert V3 to V2 and V2 to MGPT, but I have never succeeded in making a set to convert from V2 to MD. The problematic part was the crotch and butoocks area which are very different, and difficult to tweak with magnets. Will you share your technique with us (either the magnets or the finished items) ? Marty : I know you received my IM after you submitted the pakage to the RMP, but you can include my textures in it if you think they'll help. They're all yours. Best wishes.

Heya! Just to let you know i updated my website for my birthday, which includes a few graphic changes (which will last for a few days then go back to normal) and also now you can download my poser freebies on my site also! I also did some changes to the links...... Like i said before, if anyone wants me to make any textures for something, just let me know... If it's what i'm looking for (like a freebie texture package or something) then i might take it up.....^_^

grimjerk i really like the school girl it is clear that converting some nice free/commeercial v2 clothes to mayadoll would be appreciated ! do you convert it all by yourself or you at least use either the tailor or markdc's cloth converter as a bulk base, then tweak it yourself ?

oh and yes, i agree on the fact THIS board system is really uneasy to deal with :( any free hosting with sql capability and a phpbb system would just fit the work !

I have a very very very very BIG question. I just checked my e-mail to find out that someone has bought me the minidress that Insomniawork's made. Who bought it for me? I am very suprised, and i'm happy that someone actually did that! It was very unexpected! Who bought me it? And why? Was it because it's my b-day?

I will set up a BBS for us on my webspace I have several set up there already for various games I play etc. I actually program websites for a living lol mostly for the insurance e-commerce sector though. but I'll set a BBS up and maybe a few pages. stay tuned.

And here is a good tenticle monster! http://www.sixus1.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=931

Thank god for cut and paste on this one, lets try again! HAPPY BIRTHDAY SENSHI :) One note I forgot to put in. I didn't convert the stockings on the Cathrine Dress, I just used the stockings/Gaterbelt from MD Sexy Lingerie. I had already gone in and split the pieces up and remapped the stockings to take the textures that Bluebeard made for spanki's V3 stocking and didn't want to do the work again. I don't really have any working magnet sets. there seems to be some big inconsistancies when it comes to converting clothes to fit MD and any sets thay I have tried to make only work on that one piece. I have a couple basic magnet sets that I use, one for the short boots that I posted earlier and a small set that makes aome minor shape changes to the hips and thighs. For the most part every figure is done from scratch. One of the things that I have figured out, a morph set really won't work, if nothing else the hip/buttock is way to different. I beat my head against that wall for a long time till I finally gave up. I was so happy when BAT released some updates to his figures to include MD and found that he had seperate OBJs for MD. What I do for the most part is this: I scale the body of the figure, for a V3 to MD conversion its roughly 90%, that tends to put the crotch (if there is one) in the correct place (almost all of this is done on conformed btw). I tweak the individual X Y Z positions on the body and individual body parts till I'm as close as I can get to a fit, its usually not very close at this point (I think this is where I lose the ability to use a magnet set, this tweeking spot). I Then apply magnets to the areas that don't have symetrical problems, but are well hidden by MD mesh. I then export the mesh to OBJ selecting all of the optoions except morph target. This is where I get a little wierd I guess, and also another reason I can't use mag set. I import the figure (unchecking every thing and checking weld) and I check to see if the model will work in the cloth room (most don't for this purpose, clothing objects with lots of trim, like marty's cat suit or almost anything BAT does need to have portions of it constrained IE the trim, and you don't want to constrain anything at this point). Assuming the OBJ is clothroom compatible I then scale the obj down just enough for a lot of it to be just barely hidden by MD mesh and re export/import (you have to do this or you end up losing alot of your cloth work, you have to export/import after every change). Set up Key frame on frames 1 and 20, on frame one scale MD down so that she no longer connects to the obj mesh, you may have to scale individual body parts, not the entire figure. after clothifying the obj and setting collision depth and the other setting at the top to .25 and cloth density to .0001 run the simultion. If things work out you'll have a fairly well fitting obj. Export/Import. At this point whether the obj worked in cloth room or not, is where I do most of my mag work. For some reason on MD it works better to do mag work here. I found it easier to get the hip/buttock/back to work right if I work on the whole model as an OBJ then on individual body parts on a conformed figure, But this is the other reason I don't have working magnet sets. Whew! Some time I can do a figure in an evening, some times... I have to say tho... I learned alot about magnets doing this. Oh, I usualy do thigh/leg/breast work on the cr2 figure, not the obj, there is a python script in the freebies section that does a symetrical magnet clone that helps ALOT!

As far as sharing goes, I would love to. I would wish this kind of work on anyone! All the meshes have to be RTE/PCF encoded, which unfortunatly means that any of my older bat conversion won't work if you don't have the files, and most aren't distributed anymore. I highly suggest that you head out to Yamato's site (poser penthouse) and down load the files from the fair thats going on, some of the clothes I converted are re-availble there for a short time (like ISOPs sailor suit and BATs cangal outfits I used for the sailor suit conversion). Grim

Could someone answer my question? ^^ Who bought me the anime doll MiniSkirt? And why? Someone has bought me the minidress and i would like to know who. ^^

Ugg No way to edit posts here, Eratta number one in my long conversion post: (almost all of this is done on conformed btw). should read almost all of this is done UN conformed. Riddokun, I do it all by hand unless i get lucky and the cloth room can help me out. Lets just say that the clothes converter doesn't work with MD/AD at all and leave it at that (bites tongue till it bleeds).

SenshiTaurus : I bought you the dress, and made one more sell for Marty, so that's 2 happy people in one move. I chose this item because it was the one in your wishlist I expected your parents would be the least upset on... ;) (you're young enough to be my son after all...) I don't understand why Renderosity doesn't allow you to make a Birthday card when you buy an item for someone... Happy Birthday SenshiTaurus.

THANK YOU COMPILER! And hey, i showed my mum all the stuff on my whishlist, and she doesn't mind. She understands i'll need some things, like the underware and all that, and my dad has to be there when i buy stuff like Bat's Witch thingie, and he either just doesn't mind or makes some wise crack..... Anyway, THANK YOU COMPILER!

You're welcome. ;)

Wow! So much talk in the last 12 hours. Happy birthday Senshi!!! Thank you compiler!!! I don't know what IM you are refering to. On the subject of conversions, I can do a conversion from AD to V3 with Magnets that I have saved to do most of the work. My first magnets rescales the body and then the rest of the magenets moves things around. My biggest problem is breasts. I tried a conversion on my catsuit and the breasts were a big problem as well as the buttocks being so different. At this point I always come to the same conclusion that it would be better to rebuild the mesh since I am the modeler. I am going to look at one of BatLabs latest products and see how he approaches the conversions. What I am afraid of is what comes after the conversions. What about V3 body morphs.....this is what drives me crazy. Everyone expects all the morphs or at least some of them. I think I could spend a week just adding body morphs. I read your method description Grimjerk with much interest. You didn't say, but I understand you are using P5 for your conversion. I know of the method you are speeking of but I never really tested it since I am not comfortable with P5 as a building environment. You say the trims give you trouble, and you can't do my clothing this way or you can? I am not aware of magnet mirror scripts, I am in the habit of saving magnets and reloading them and changing the paramerters to make them a mirror. If you could post any mirror tools links to this forum, I would really appriciate it. Also....I know that many of you have posted addons for my products in the Free Stuff. I have tried to make links to these free products from my promopages. For some reason, I can not find the source of the downloads. Please post the links of FreeStuff in this forum that you would like to see on my promo pages. I am overjoyed to see that serpentis has put out a texture package for my item. I am going to write him/or her a thank you letter. My sales looked good over the last 12 hours also, I checked my computer this morning and there were about 9 sales. Thats good, its been a long time but these spurts usually come with the end/beginning of the month. After much thought, I am still working on animedoll for the time being. I think that all that is keeping my sales low is the fact that I need to convert over many charactors. I hate all the extra work. Its hard enough to make it work with one charactor well. Its twice as much work at least making it fit another charactor, and so much harder with all the V3 morphs that are expected. Frankly I don't have the patience to look at the same project for so long, I get bored with it and begin to hate working on it. I am interested in help on this subject, Grimjerk. Maybe a team effort, I need a good morpher to help since I am far from the best. Are you any good at using any other morphing software Grim? as where these forum threads are, I think they are going to be here for a long time. Please everyone remember, before you click "post reply" always select everything you just typed copy it to your clip board. This way, if its lost its a matter of pasting it in again. Messages that are large tend to be lost because of the time they take to write them. Here is another tip, if you type something for about 15 minutes or so, open up another browser window and go to the rosity main page, this will reset things and your reply will go thru. This is what I will have to do before I click "Post Reply" on this message because of the time it took me to write it. marty

Happy birthday to you Happy birthday to you Happy birthday dear senshi Happy birthday to you If there is anything in my store that you don't have and you want Senshi, tell me what it is. In other words, just tell me what you don't have, lol. marty

Here is the swimsuit that I began building so far. I spent a much longer time on this stage of this swimsuit doing experimention. I am trying to get more realistic wrinkles and this my be my best work yet. But its still not real looking as I want it to be, but I have discovered something about adding wrinkles that I hadn't discovered until now. The method is sort of making the using an undesirable side effect of Rhino to my advantage. With practice, I feel I will get much better at it. marty

Your offering me one of your products Insomniaworks? No! I couldn't do that! I mean, i've already received on of your products for free (from my POV, but not from Compiler's POV) and i don't think i should take any more. Thanks for the offer anyway. Gosh! You guys are being so nice to me! Anyway Insomnia, i think i should point you to the gallery. Someone has made a Super Sailor Scout expansion for you Sailor Scout set (might be released as freebie if enough people persuade him) so I suggest IMing him. I think his name is CiaoBarra or something......

hmm btw, regarding helping your sales, what would help them most between those two: - free addon for a commercialitem of yours or - small price commercial addon (with better quality) for a product of yours ? i ask that because i am a bit in lack of insporation and courage for my own brand projects by now, and also i wanted to suppot mayadoll (and, incidentally) animedoll but with more eas for me, basing myself on someone' else work, and i intended to make a few texture packages for now "non free" clothes (as i already did some for the free ones so far) i feel a bit uneasy at this (for variosu reason, the one relevent here would be that i am still a lame newbie texturer at all...) and so am unsure of the viability/quality of the things i could do, no matter how much time and care i put inside it. if interested or if willing to give me advices and tips, feel free...

Correction: Ciaomaro......that's his name.....

Senshi, you desirve anything you want from my store anyway because you are a tester. Just tell me what you don't have and want. Also Senshi, try transfering some of your thigh movement from the legs to your buttocks. This will make smooth out those rough edges in the skirt between her legs.

Marty, The python script was not easy to track down, the search engine dosen't bring it up if you use python as a search item. if you use "clone" it does. the creators website is http://poserpython.com/ScriptsPage.html, it can be downloaded from there as well. As far as your catsuit goes, I haven't actualy tried it in the cloth room yet, but from experience I don't think it will work. The problem is, the seams that you have in there for the stocking top, abdomen, arms etc.. are not "part of the mesh" is the best way I can describe it. If I try to put it in the cloth room, they will break and fall. You need to be able to constrain them for it to work and when your trying to "grow" a piece of cloth, you just can't do that, and if your trying to do a skirt that has a hem in the mesh... well you can't constrain them either or the skirt won't move right. I'll throw your Catsuit in the chamber later and see what happens, I'll post a pick of what it does. However, on my way how from work last night I think I came up with a new process that will at least help me with a sweet pair of jeans I'm trying to convert. If it works I'll update you with the process. Other morph programs... I have used the tailor with some success and just bought 1.5. There was another application that I was looking at the other night (I can't remember the name) that looked like it had some promise, but I have been burned for the cost off several utilities lately (they just don't seem to do what they were advertised to do) that I have been very hesitant to pop out another 60 bucks or more... if you know what I mean. Is there a morph package you can recomend?

Oh BTW, that looks like a nice start on the swim suit

Marty : I was referring to the IM I sent you yesterday about the SummerWear outfit. R'osity e-bot told me you got it, but you may have discarded it among the huge fan mail you receive. I'm sending it again to you. As for the freestuff I made : Here is the texture for the Gymsuit : http://compiler.free.fr/GymFrance.zip And here is the wetsuit texture for the catsuit http://compiler.free.fr/Wetsuit_for_IW_catsuit.zip And I agree : that swimsuit is really looking good !

Nice picture. Like the hair, and the logo on the umbrella is a most excellent touch. Very cool.

I forgot to copy and paste my self, damn!!! I havn't done that in a long time. Well here goes the message again.... ______________________________________ Above is the swimsuit part of the ensemble so far. I am still working on it so don't be too hard on me. Compiler, love your renders. Great use of gloss. Also, It would be better if you sent me those textures after you have set them up in folders and made MAT poses for them. I will be updating all my promo pages as I always do with release of the SummerWearOne Package and will put the links to the free products. Grimjerk, the reason I was asking is if you find that morphing is your forte, you will want an editor that lets your move vertices one by one if you choose as well as groups. Although, I havn't fully tested it yet, I feel that Clothes Converter would allow you do to this at a very reasonable price. I don't feel it is a solve all product as it is advertised, but it does have some dandy tools.