Here is the swimsuit that I began building so far. I spent a much longer time on this stage of this swimsuit doing experimention. I am trying to get more realistic wrinkles and this my be my best work yet. But its still not real looking as I want it to be, but I have discovered something about adding wrinkles that I hadn't discovered until now. The method is sort of making the using an undesirable side effect of Rhino to my advantage. With practice, I feel I will get much better at it. marty