Lol, exactly ddruckenmiller, exactly. I think we can almost guarantee one assumption; As long as Corel owns Bryce, there will be no Bryce 6. (Yet, even that could change IF/when Corel can do a great financial turnaround.) I wouldn't worry too much about VueFu. Although, Vue and Bryce are uncannily VERY much alike....they still have great differences in their GUI and what their renders look like. So, I believe there is still room for new Bryce users, especially sonce Bryce 5 is so inexpensive. Bryceformac is great because it does still give everyone hope. I mean, there are a lot of us who have it, this just kinda puts hope into something real. (as real as the internet can get) New Bryce, old Bryce, no more Bryce...I'll still keep using mine. AgentSmith

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