Yeah...I am trying to save enough money so I can get Maya Educational Version...But I still like my render times in Bryce...I render usually around 3000x2500 or like this and I am at about 3 hours now I have done some scene's that have taken 40 hours to render...Like the Magazine Contest submission I did "Warmth of a Good Fire"that took 40 hours to render...But it was well worth the wait...But like I said you'll come back...Especially with it looking like Bryce Pro might become a reality with Eris Wenger still holding the Rights to the code to Bryce and Not Vector and like them Corel or Metacreations,They only leased the code....Well good luck...See ya soon...