Another thing about the time limited stuff, you might think that you are getting a bargain and then find out a month later that the bargain doesnt work anymore... I wouldnt buy the base application as it is. The "great" open gl slows my computer down a lot and I don`t like the interface either. The problem with the program being "free" is that to make it work properly you will have to buy plugins for stuff. I still prefer poser 5, it has a few bugs still but some of the new features are great.