heyas; you know, that's why i added the glow. there's a point light in the lantern, and it's supposed to shine on the ground and man and horse, and the trees/bushes near them. but it didn't do so hot. the ground especially, the shadow of the bottom of the lantern is rather large. i may need a group of lights there. crescent: that's a sphere centered on the lantern. it's a fuzzy additive yellow thang, probably also with cranked up light percentages in the effects tab. thanks for the ideas, guys; i'll work on it tomorrow. :)