killer3d opened this issue on May 05, 2004 ยท 8 posts
brainmuffin posted Wed, 05 May 2004 at 10:16 AM
I'm answering because I know from firsthand experience that most jugglers hate to see juggling animated wrong. (as an example, the other day I had to endure a cartoon lion "juggling" ten hotdogs. They all just floated around in slow motion, in a great big, perfect circle, and didn't even flip. He must've been levitating them with his mind.) the reason we hate to see this is because non-jugglers see stuff like this, and begin to think that it's actually humanly possible, and that we are merely inferior jugglers because we can't do the impossible. So, in order to help you to not add to the confusion, I'm going to give you a brief education on the basics of juggling, and some video clips to use for reference. The most basic juggling pattern, the fist one every juggler learns, and the most widely used, is called the Cascade. It's not actually circular. It's more like the symbol for infinity (a figure eight laying on it's side). You can see video of a man doing the Cascade with bowling balls here: (he starts with the Cascade, then goes into a trick called elevators) http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steven.mcallister/video/Juggler.mov The Cascade (basically) can only be done with an odd number of balls. Usually 3, 5, or 7. The "circular" method, is quite a bit more difficult, and it's actually called the Shower. the Shower can be done with just about any number of objects, more than eleven is possible. you can find a few samples of the Shower at the link below. Notice that the guy showering 3 balls is the only one who comes close to a perfect circle, by keeping the balls low and fast. Increasing the number of objects means increasing the height of throws, thus warping the circular pattern. This is done out of necessity, the higher you throw the ball, the more time you have to catch it... (Showers here) http://www.jongleringsoasen.se/aquarium/pqrst.html If you're looking to do something that looks magical, almost as if someone is using juggling to weave a spell, I'd suggest using the Cascade, and adding in a few more complex cascade based patterns, such as: Burkes' barrage, the cherry picker, cyclo 1 and 2, http://www.jongleringsoasen.se/aquarium/abcde.html#D and maybe some mills mess thrown in... http://www.jongleringsoasen.se/aquarium/klmno.html#L That place, the video-paedia of juggling has basically everything you'll need to animate a very complex juggling routine. I hope this helps. If you have any other questions, let me know. John