btw this makes me asking something i really wanted to ask: is there any WAY to buy legally Judy obj/geometry separatly, withotu p5 ? a friend of mine told me he tested judy (and an an) on a p4 (his old version) and judy still worked, but of course none of p5 feature could be used... so if only judy is needed for Anan, i really would like to buy it for my P4 as it would work for me... i really like yamato's characters, tenten, an an or even the early ranran/cancan... so far i do not consider buying any vickies, adn would i, i would take v3 because it now have better support, but for tenten on v3 you still need v2. V2 is now still a bit old and many people turned from her too...