This may sound stupid and I apologize first off if I may offend, but have you looked at your system resources? HD space and RAM, etc. When I have a problem like that, It's always cause I've taxed my system. (ICQ 2000b takes up 30% of my system's resources. Foutunately, ICQ98 is available still on Download.com. I don't need all that yuppie crap) [gets off soapbox] Anyway, Sorry again for pointing out the obvious, but sometimes it takes an ass like me to find the ass in all of us. :D Hoborg (note use of ^)