LOL, yeah I was sleepy last night when I posted that. On a positive note, I was able to confirm a bug or something with OpenGL. When using OpenGl on my system I can not see the axis line. However in software I can. I tried switching between the different rendering modes last night. But I didnt figure it out until today. The reason I didnt catch it last night was because I was in OpenGl when I started the program. Once I go into the Modeler and try the lathe with OpenGl enabled, it wont work again until I exit the program and switch to Software. I was trying to switch it to Software on the fly (which it does ok in the assembly room), it doesnt like to do that in the modeler. In fact I can get it to lock up by doing this from within the modeler, not everytime, but I can reproduce the disappearing axis line. If I set it to Software and exit the program, when I restart the program and I try the lathe tool it works. So I guess I will be leaving it on software. I'm just happy that it does work. Donnie