bah, in my 4-5 years at 'rosity i've seen much worse flame wars in poser forum then in old C&D or OT. but they can't close poser forum, can they? so it is a plain old "we have our principles, but as long we can earn some bucks, we might not live by them." hypocrisy? you bet! rosity will become a sell market, a mall or something equally soulles. it will be full of hobbyist making gazillions of "naked vickies in more or less low-resolution backgrounds, who will be shoulder-clapping each other and bying another light-set, being unable to make one. so what? one site takes a declining road, the others will emerge or already are. c'est la vie. after more then a thousand mornings accompanied by 'rosity's forums, this is my last posting here. see you at chickensoup @ poserpros! p.s. and if not, be well, it was fun! :)