Don't forget Natalia and Dina, and their offshoots. Dacort does some wonderful modelling... Dale B.. I couldnt agree more, aside from the maybe not so pretty face Dina has, her geometrie and flexibility across the board excell past any of the Daz figures. I think HandspanStudious did Drusila, I have posed this charcter for hours and got to say, no other figures poses with better realism, out of our local pick anyways. Aside from her face, the only other downfall I see is her mapping, but with some of the newer programs out there, its forseeable that mapping qualities for Dina can get as good as the ones you find for V series if someone wanted to re-uv Dina that is.