That is COOL! -- Great lookin' creature! << i know this forum isnt the most active but i thought i would post this anyways. >> And thanks for doin' that! I check in here most days, and while it sometimes ain't real active, I've learned a lot, and been inspired a lot, by seeing other people's modeling techniques and approaches. Your mechanical spider is a GREAT inspiration! I'd love to see an animation of this gizmo! As for your low-poly modeling question -- sorry, I have no idea what works for game programs these days. I'm more into animation for film and video, so poly count doesn't concern me so much. But judging by your wireframe render, you've done a great job of making every poly count -- and I'm sure you worked hard to achieve that. Great job, man ... maybe someone else can answer that question for you. I'm just enjoying your obvious design and modeling skills -- fantastic job! Thanx for sharing :-) --Roy