Unless props become the big thing how much more new stuff could we need - I've downloaded nearly as many people, textures and clothing and the lot as I could ever find time to use. In fact at this point, Im started to contemplate entering the world of making textures cause in that lies all the variety - good textures can make one pants model (or whatever) look like a dozen. I think Renderosity is fine - the 'fiasco' didn't affect me at all. It was picked up and the new staff has shown they're eager to make a go of it - given the circumstances one can't ask for more than that. - Dave