Thanks for the honest opinions everyone. I will see if I can work on the vegetation this weekend. Yeah, the plant generator itself is great, but the texturing needs to be further explored. I second the praise for Terragen. I have been using it since version 6.9 I believe. Actually, if Carrara could produce the skies Terragen can do now it would be great. I've seen the volumetric examples and they are impressive, but even Terragens' skies now are breathtaking. This is really more of a challenge to see if I can recreate something that is easy in dedicated landscape programs. I like a challenge. I will try to give it some more attention this weekend when I have some time. Donnie