wohoo!! can we sling mud at ya yet?? :) (i suppose if i do that, you'll quit and go home. ::sigh:: i never get to have any fun!) you got my vote, mike. at least you actually own vue, and if renderosity has to pick another moderator from somewhere else, that might not be the case. (though i'm sure we can convert them... heh heh!) okay, guys, this friday is the thirteenth and a full moon! if nobody else is gonna volunteer to run against mike, i say we swear him in then! THIS IS YOUR LAST WARNING! :)