Zal Considering the price of artists' mannequins and live models; as an art tool designed for capturing poses, Poser is (and was, at $99 for the original Poser 1) an incredible bargain. At this point in development, the ability to import props, scenes, textures and morphs (as with the ability to animate, and apply transparencies to those objects) makes it an amazingly flexible piece of software. I get the impression that a lot of people want the software to do EVERYTHING. Should you really expect Poser to do much more than a pencil or paintbrush if you don't spend the time mastering the tools. My only item for a Poser 5 wishlist is the ability to use 3rd party plug-ins for those users who don't want to bother reading the manual or browsing the forums for existing answers to common problems (joints, eyes, etc. have been covered in these forums--with several excellent alternatives and workarounds for the problems you mentioned in your earlier posts). Keeping Poser flexible and inexpensive is my most major concern. I've always been curious about the logic of folks who keep comparing Poser with Bryce. From an artist's point of view, it strikes me that capturing the human form is MUCH more complicated than capturing a landscape.