zalmegra go out and find another program that will do what poser does and includes the same amount of meshes, oh and it must be simple to use like poser.......i won't wait for the answer coz there isn't one LOL nothing can do what poser does, yes you could by CS and max then need to fork out another $100,000 to get all the models (thats not an OTT figure) then need a year or so to learn it.......the crazy thing is poser DOES compete with big expensive top end software the only reason we don't see more of it on TV ect. is software snobbery....i could go on forever on this subject but trust me things are moving along and you will see poser more and more in the spotlight.......Steve