Michael, This is the site I found a while back, Dumb-dumb me didn't bookmark it! You can bet it is now! Thank you so very much. I am done matting and framing right now, have about 25 works done up. Going to have two 16 x 20 images done on canvas and frame them, the trouble is I can't decide which one I want to do. When dad finishes the stand for my works I will take a pic of it to show you. :) Have a great evening! Brenda :)