Hi TJ, Mark and Mikeberg Mark, Yep! every time. TJ I tried correct reference to start with and just ran it all through again, I thought that might be the broblem in the first place! but no joy. I'll maybe get on to the boffins at Eovia. To be honest it doesn't stop it working perfectly well in all other ways, I'm just an inpatient sod. If I get anywhere with it I'll let you all know. Thanks for the reply. Roy