Hello guys!!:) May I slip in? hehe Well the only reason why the meshes are not really symetrical, it's pretty much like Gary said...I am only a beginer at modeling complex meshes like those... Don't forget that this is far more complicated than creating let's say hair models ;) At some point, I always make a symetrical side by mirror it in lw...but then I start work the mesh a little more and manage to screw up:( Not that I am saying my models are crap ok?? LOL I know lots of models that are not symetrical too. But I also know what's better for morphs and creating clothes etc...and this is symetry. Well I will really try to pay more attention on my next model that I can promise. I appologize if it was inconvenient for you and still hope you will like my stuff. It took a little more than one year overall to create Elle and it was very painfull by moment.But at the end, I still think she looks very good and still think that she had the most realitic expression I've seen on a poser figure so far. But you are better judge than me since I am the creator ;) On this note...I'm off to model some new hair :D Nef